I started taking kratom when I was trying to come off taking Ultram. I spent a good year and a half dependent on buying prescription pills that I never even needed. It's always great highs and bad lows. Kratom was fantastic for weaning off of being dependent, but I found myself needing to bring at least 5 maengda capsules with me to get through a work day. The last couple of weeks I just stopped myself from that and I feel %1000 percent better getting completely independent from needing to have a substance to decide my day. I owe kratom a debt but it should be used as a transitional tool more than anything.