This is quackery. I took 10 grams from a reputable source, empty stomach mixed into some spring water. Choked the whole thing down two hours ago. Nothing. Maaaybe slight flushing.
My friends take it from the same source. I even gave him 10 grams from the same bag. He says he's "flyyyyin." Of course he smoked a bowl as well.
I am not a pot smoker because of my job. I am well acquainted with all drugs except maybe PCP, although there was that one fucked up joint back in 92.
Anyway, nothing. Kratom has no actual effect. Has anyone else tried kratom with no other drug? I have. NOTHING.