@machaddow I do very much appreciate your summation and justification of this program, as that certainly makes more sense than what I clearly stated was an assumption based on one image. 

But alas, as usual, you have me all wrong. This wasn’t taken private for any reason but for an introduction from someone I thought to be a stranger. 

Thanks for always being on the ball with the assumptions and resulting attacks and insults though; I’ve gotten a PhD level course in you trying to keep folks on their toes 🙏🏻😉❤️. And that’s why I keep my business private.

So for the good of Kratom, I will not respond further or again to such questions even if I feel I’m being unfairly attacked, because that’s still all that matters to me.

@Susan-Ash Susan, there is an old adage from Proverbs where "a guilty man fleeth where no man pursueth." I did not mention you by name because you are not the only one who promises to share opinions in "private." My point for all, including you, is that I am open and willing to have public conversations, or one-on-one conversations that can be shared (if done so accurately). It is easy to say things in such private communications that have no accountability to the truth, or that would benefit from explanations that correct misimpressions that might exist.

I sincerely honor and respect the passion and commitment you have to the kratom cause, but you insist that must include some sort of public praise before any conversation can take place and a demand -- that you made to me personally -- that you be given some absolution from the facts that led to your departure from the AKA.

One last adage: One step forward, and two steps back. Which direction are you moving in support of the "big-picture" effort to protect and preserve legal access to safe and pure kratom products for consumers? I am not referring to promoting your kratom branded product, or some personal PR effort to rehabilitate some perceived slight.

@guywithtrees I thought the vendors on that page were the ones who had paid the dues and done the training for good manufacturing practices. 

there are some vendors who will remain nameless, I'm not sure what they're outright what their goal was but what actually happened was they got a lot of people worked up and very angry over the announcement that the truth in labeling program and when they did that without actually educating people on what was going on and still for a lot of reasons it's kind of unclear what that program is for first they tell us it's to report City Thunders because of not following good manufacturing practices then they tell us it's the campaign to get kratom in to the media and commercials. That's a good idea I love the thought of seeing Kratom commercials in a positive light my problem is this specific person decided they were going to post videos and basically by the truth in labeling program and they got a lot of people riled up. I don't know if I was the only one who got angry about this post but I did and the next thing I know after I spoke out on this specific action I was verbally accosted on Facebook so I'm staying away from there for now. If they ever do have Kratom commercials on TV I will be recording them and be grateful about it. I also know are time is extremely expensive. Sorry if it sounded like I was ranting or rambling I'm just trying to clear the air on a few things

@Monnie-Fuq-LaVenus Actually, that is a different program where vendors agree to adhere to GMP standards in processing kratom products. That list of qualified vendors is a distinctly different program that addresses quality and safety issues, and that listing is available to all vendors who commit to those standards.

@Monnie-Fuq-LaVenus  Kratom consumers are a diverse advocacy community, and sometimes the strongly held views of some lead to unfortunate comments that should have had more thought. There are a number of video resources available to help understand these programs, and the newest two are the kratom education advertisements (stay tuned because they will be rolled out very soon) and the AKA Truth in Labeling Program. The Truth in Labeling Program is designed to protect us from the FDA's most recent strategy to claim the inappropriate and illegal health claims made by some kratom vendors reflects the conduct of the vast majority of kratom vendors -- which it does not. We have to fight the FDA at multiple levels, and this is the newest battleground they have opened up. I thank you for your understanding and willingness to listen to the explanations of the intent and structure of these programs.

I appreciate your input @machaddow 

@machaddow Thanks for proving my point about making inaccurate assumptions. I literally want nothing from you but for your public and private bullying of me to stop. I used to want you to tell the truth but gave up on that a long time ago. 

@Susan-Ash These baseless accusations appear to be intended only to deflect attention from your persistent attacks on AKA. I do not engage in any "private" communications with or about you. What you characterize as public "bullying" is actually correcting the record when you insist on making public statements that detract from what should be furthering the kratom cause. I am open and transparent. My goal is singularly on the mission of keeping kratom legal and everything I have done in the kratom world is focused on that objective.

What's going on?

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