@bizaro22 you get me!!!!! So the question is what does it do for you? I have so many types of strains from all different good vendors, that’s not the problem I agree I think I’m taking to much. I’ll stick with 2 then. Thanks so much 😊😊😊 I really want to know what you feel, contentment? Thanks!!!

@MAC1 Honestly.....absolutely nothing. Maybe some morning pick me up, but that could be in my head. Also, some people are just not sensitive to things put in their body. I'm not. I can drink a ton of coffe and go to sleep. Even Oxy didn't do to me what it did to others. Like I said, it's not a recreational leaf. It's more about what it takes away then what it gives you...but some people sensitive to it can get some mood lift. It's all very mild regardless. Most of what you read are from people in pain, so obviously they will feel great when that goes away. Also lower amounts are supposed to give you some energy, higher amounts will be more relaxing. 2-5 grams is a good area to work in.

@bizaro22 I’m just like you!!!!! So out of all the different tea, which ones are your go to that you might think give you pep? I can drink a pot of coffee and go to sleep and same with the meds. WOW, we are totally in the same boat!! Thanks so much!

@MAC1 I'd stick to greens and maybe whites if that's your goal, although some whites can make you jittery. Green Malay, maybe a Maeng Da. I only take it as it's a ritual for me. As an ex-addict it gives me something to do every 5 hours, like how I use to take pills (or worse things). Having a non-harmful routine is just good for me but I have no real reason to burn as it doesn't do anything for "me". Sometimes you get the nuances of the leaf after a while, but it will not hit you over the head.

@bizaro22 I actually think reds are opposite for me and I do 2 every 3 hours because I need to. I think I metabolize it faster. I took 2 and feel a little pick me up but this will fade fast. Well I am so glad I found someone that is fairly the same 😊 I’m not in pain, depressed, I’m just have addictive personality

@MAC1 As Biz has explained, I agree completely because it is a fact that kratom has allowed me an "absence" of the debilitating anxiety that is a harsh symptom of my PTSD. I will take this one step further; Because I no longer feel incapacitated by the anxiety I have suffered with, the darkness of the swirling racing thoughts that freeze me up & the extreme insomnia that allows me no sleep to the point where I cannot function, guess what? When I use kratom I *definitely* feel a mood uplift & energy boost because our precious Leaf brings me UP from the darkness of my PTSD & back into how NORMAL people feel. When you are down so low, feeling normal is a blessing. I hope you understand what I am saying.  *Please read what Biz has written very carefully MAC1* ... he knows what he is talking about.

@MAC1 Reds will sometimes do that, give you a burst of energy, then fade to relaxation. Greens normally will keep that burst going for 3 or 4 hours. I'd still recommend a green, or at least mix a green with a red if necessary. The biggest way to get let down with Kratom is to "chase" a feeling. Addicts do it all the time. Not only will you fail, but most will blow their tolerance sky high in the process.

@mac1 Added note; There really are quite a few people in our community (the kratom community) who are "opposites". But again, Biz is on point because Green Strains are considered "middle of the road" so whether you an "opposite" or a "normal" Greens are the best place to start 

@ska maybe it’s just my imagination if it’s so unheard of?!?!

@mac1 said in [New member and excited to get some answers?](/post/2738): > @ska maybe it’s just my imagination if it’s so unheard of?!?! I apologize, Mac, but I am not entirely sure what you are saying. Could you please elaborate?

If reds are not opposite for some people? That’s what I got from your post? If I misinterpreted it than I apologize but I really do not get tired, relaxed from reds. Greens seem to do that to me.

@mac1 said in [New member and excited to get some answers?](/post/2740): > If reds are not opposite for some people? That’s what I got from your post? If I misinterpreted it than I apologize but I really do not get tired, relaxed from reds. Greens seem to do that to me. That's ok, Mac. Some people are opposites in that; Reds are energizing & Whites are sleepy. For most, the very general rule of thumb is that Reds are sleepy & Whites are energizing. Greens are middle of the road.

Do you mind my 2 cents worth? I have only been using it for a week or so, but I think I know what you mean. At first I thought it was going to make me feel 10 years younger and ready to rock and roll....and I have found it just makes me feel normal. Happy and normal and in my case, that gives me the energy to get on with my day. My pain is almost all gone and most importantly, the low level opiate withdrawal anxiety I seem to live with all the time due to a tolerance to meds and doctor refusal to increase dose is gone, which allows me to concentrate on all the other stuff I need to do. Its truly amazing. I take 2 grams twice a day mixed in a little chocolate milk and just drink it down in a couple gulps. It is nasty tasting for sure. My husband told me it smells like hay before I drink it. I hope I helped.

Nice post @swanville ! Very nice

Well I guess it was to good to be true! Was hopeful that this would work in my favor. We shall see what happens, I have a ton of tea that will now go to waste. Thanks everyone for your great help and info!

@mac1 said in [New member and excited to get some answers?](/post/2775): > Well I guess it was to good to be true! Was hopeful that this would work in my favor. We shall see what happens, I have a ton of tea that will now go to waste. > Thanks everyone for your great help and info! I apologize but I am not entirely clear as to why you have, " *...a ton of tea that will now go to waste*"? I sincerely hope that will not be the case for you & if there is anything that I can do or explain, please do not hesitate to ask me, ok? 

Neither am I ? Are you referring possibly to a court decision ( personal issue? Or?) Are you in a State in which it has been banned?

I think he just means it's not doing much for him, so what's the use...

@bizaro22 yes what you just stated is correct. Off to find other ways to stay on the right path. We shall see!

@bizaro22 and I’m actually a female 😊

@MAC1 Yes, you most definitely are! Sorry, my bad. Don't call the PC police on me....lol! Best of luck to you.

@mac1 lmao.. I get that ALL of the time

@bizaro22 🤣😂🤣😂

@mac1 so in reading through this thread I have to ask what no one else has asked (unless I missed it)....have you tried taking more than 5 grams at a time? You wrote several times that you don't take more than 5g at a time...maybe the problem.is that you need more? 5g is a moderate dose. 7-9g is considered a high dose, but some people need that much. Were you taking oxy for a pain condition? Also, have you been tested for any CYP450 mutations? (If you've been tested, you'll know what that is.) It sounds like you are a rapid metabolizer.

Yes @MAC1, @Miss-Maris makes a good point. While I normally don't recommend publicly for people to take larger amounts, especially for people with addictive personalities, she could be right and a larger amount might at least be worth trying. Although, at that amount "most" would get relaxed and not peppy, but we are all different so who knows. She is also correct about the CYP450 which is a mutation that can render Kratom ineffective for some. Personally, I still think some people are just not sensitive to it. My wife can have a sip of soda and be bouncing off the walls while I can have a pot of coffe and go to sleep. Kratom definitely worked wonders for me for withdrawals, but I just don't get anything else from it that's noticeable. One last thing, as you're only two months clean, it might take a while longer for you to feel the nuances of the leaf. Most will get a better appreciation for it the longer you are past your old habit.