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@Andrew-Goldin

Yes!!!! Thank you so much for speaking up about this. I’m REALLY concerned about the way we are spreading so much misinformation. I grow Kratom myself and it blows my mind how incredibly ignorant our people are or misinformed from being lied to. It actually breaks my heart because I have thousands of friends who are Kratom advocates and consumers who want to grow but don’t because of ppl telling them the leaves don’t produce alkaloids that are potent or that our soil is bad OR that it’s impossible to grow it here bc of our climate. All of that is a myth/misconception. I have eaten my leaves in raw form and they are very potent. My trees are at least 4 years old. I live in Cali and my plants are THRIVING. During the winter I place them in a greenhouse. The guy I bought them from lives in Georgia and he says the same thing as me. They are potent at 4 years of age. I haven’t tried any younger than that. But, guys please find out for yourself if you grow. And if you don’t grow, don’t be discouraged by what other ppl r telling you bc it’s all lies. I was in pretty bad pain at like a ‘6’. I ate a leaf and within minutes my pain was gone.  

https://southeastbeautifulkratom.com/growing-kratom-in-america/

@Andrew-Goldin  checking to see if you got the chat message I sent you. Apparently the chat is screwed up I'd like to send you my contact information so I can test some crisp

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@roadkill yah chat is getting worked on. It won't show when u have been pm'ed but @will is revamping the entire system to be Facebook style chat heads. We turned it back on to give users the option. 

@Andrew-Goldin oh my, that's beautiful. My usual dose is about 5g if it's all that do you recommend I stay with that or reduce that. And it's just straight plant correct no additives.

were can I get a plant or tree in Florida 

Hey @Glenn-Manning I am one of the owners of the #kratomapp. 

We offer 3 for 1 on unrooted cuttings here

https://kratomleaf.us/product/...

We also have older American Kratom seed pods available here

https://kratomleaf.us/product/...

And we also make the fresh leaf available from our American Kratom trees. 

https://kratomleaf.us/product/...

@Andrew-Goldin

I was reading one of your comments and seen that you are talking about crisp, is there anyway I could get a sample of that I've been looking for a decent place but I'm new to all of this so I haven't gotten very far

so happy to read so much success and attempting success in so many places!  Very inspiring for the long term USA sourced kratom!  🙏

I look forward to hearing about the difference y’all may notice.  I would interrupt and embarrass myself by asking to try it as well, but I don’t possess the clear senses needed to smell and taste those differences.  I absolutely do agree about the farmers and clean drying issues as well as old grinders. Not a fan of the brokers/processors and their random “cold call” sales, no matter how courteous. But I’m glad to know they are doing quite a lot more than buying from the farmer (or not acquiring product at all) and then posting online. I’m interested in where Indonesian individuals shop for massive quantity capable grinding equipment.  Thank you for sharing the discussion.  When I do notice unique smells and flavors, now I have something to sort of consider.  Very helpful!  Loving this app/forum for learning more stuff like this!  Dubai having good resource and processing is VERY ENCOURAGING to know.  👍

@Laurie Not sure you fully saw what I wrote, but I concluded that kratom is not coming out of Dubai. It is banned there based off everything I’ve read. You cannot find any kratom for sale in Dubai. And kratom that smells/tastes like gas gives me a big reason to think it’s from Indonesia bc a hydro farm in Dubai would likely be using state of the art equipment. Most machines are made in China or India. You can find them on alibaba. 

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Thank you for the post here because I absolutely missed these last bits of the discussion @andrew! Very much appreciate the concluding remarks here, including the resource the Indonesians use for accessing equipment!  The bold type is required by the app, I’m not trying to GET A POINT HAMMERED HOME here, lol.